Coding for the future
Director of netbeans engineering
The road to here:
Recent trends:
Is java tooling mature:
Web ide
Opportunities for growth:
Who is well positioned to deliver?
Netbeans pitch
Director of netbeans engineering
- Ide wars in the 2000s
- Soon two horse race with netbeans and eclipse
- Most moved to build eclipse plugins.
- Intellij commercial
- Then an evolution occurred that took project data from ide and stored them in ant maven, hudson,etc. Devs can now use ide of source on shared project.
- Polyglot world, outside java.
- Code completion, debugger, etc.
- JavaScript big player, difficult to tool.
- Debugger, compiler, error handling, etc now popularly available.
- Mostly enhancement requests now.
- Wysiwyg where possible.
- Code editor in browser
- Orion is e.g.
- Combination of editor and cloud platform
- Mostly for web client technologies. Easy to tool to run in browser.
- Feature set in web ide lower and so is expectation's.
- How to integrate with back end.
- Lose performance compared to standalone ide.
- Offline mode a problem.
- Not a replacement.
- Interacting with managed systems, clouds.
- Much different than deploying war to local server.
- Amazon, google, mbaas.
- Hard to emulate on local machine.
- Really only write custom code, rest provided.
- Will always need it people which is a wall.
- Tools don't allow for easy debugging
- Combination with developer services
- CI + code analysis + git
- Rule based propagation
- CI + indexing with maven a problem. Stop indexing libraries.
- Run code analysis on git repo. Should have find refs etc. Warnings on stable code etc.
- Configuration Management
- Setting up dev env locally.
- Painful
- Changing projects can become expensive.
- Encapsulate dev and execution envs. One click setup.
- What to use for encapsulation?
- VMs? Gets expensive for multiple users. Local ide with remote source can be problem in some ides.
- Containers on hosted cloud service. Is it the same env?security. Local ide remote source problem.
- Containers not really isolated
- Locally downloaded containers. Same source problem.
- Container density limited if using big systems like weblogic
- Docker improving.
- Difficult to charge for browser based ide.
- Primary value is cloud integration.
- Have own cloud or partner with one.
- Amazon and google integrating their own small infrastructures.
- Split ui from logic
- Run in multi tenant server
- Core libs as services.
- Oracle dev cloud service
- Tailwind code editor
- Various cloud services
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